My anime character can beat your anime character!
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| #1 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Simple. This is basically the X vs. X thread. This is for character vs. character, not show vs. show. Just because you like Naruto does not mean Sakura can beat Goku because you don't like Dragon Ball.
Speaking of Goku, no Goku. Goku is too strong. Along with every other DB character. Too godly.
So let's start. Oh yeah, no flaming and back up your arguments. That doesn't mean, "LOL KYO SUCKS HAHAHA OBJECTION." That means, "I think Kyo is pretty strong. he has that spiritual pressure thing on his side. I do believe he would make a good fight for Sasuke though."
Edit: fixing this...
Let's start with the good ol' Luffy vs. Naruto. Everyone knows that. Pirates vs. Ninja. |
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| #2 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | luffy would whoop naruto he would smash him into the ground before he knew the fight started.
Ichigo vs. Naruto |
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| #3 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Well lets have more discussion then that. =/
Though i do agree. |
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| #4 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | Naruto would just turn into the Nine Tailed Fox and rip him into pieces. >_> |
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| #5 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | Naruto nine tailed fox. vs Son Goku demon form. ((From Saiyuki not DBZ)) |
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| #6 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #4 by NoName | Reply | Gear Third for Luffy.
Gear Third is when Luffy blows into his thumb and makes one part of his body turn into that of a giant's. he can transfer that air anyway he please, so he can make a giant's foot, then switch to a giant's hand.
it would be like Luffy punching a small dog. Sad but effective. |
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| #7 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #6 by HeavyDDR | Reply | Lmao... I don't want One Piece so I wouldn't know and I haven't watched most of Naruto either. XD I haven't watched Saiyuki either so I have to say.
Nine Tailed Fox. :) |
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| #8 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | yeah, there's always Wikipedia. If you don't know something about a character, go there. =P |
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| #9 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | What do I look like? A non-lazy person?
Legato (From Trigun) Vs. D (From Vampire Hunter D) |
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| #10 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | I don't watch the show Naruto, but I know some few things about him...so if he turns into a nine tailed fox (considering he's a kid) wouldn't he be like a puppy(kit)?
Stupid question, I know... |
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| #11 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | ....And I just looked it up...and now I feel like a dumbass...Ignore what I just asked...I'm just going to go now. |
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| #12 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | Sailor Moon Vs Kurama. xD |
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| #13 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Alucard from Hellsing 
vs
Abel Nightroad from Trinity Blood.
Both of them with all their limiters removed. That would be awesome!
Also, Zoro from One Piece 
vs
Kurogane from Tsubasa Chronicles 
(They're the same guy for god sake, just different sword style)
And about DBZ vs Naruto vs One Piece.
No matter what anybody says, ANYONE (except maybe Chiaotzu and Yamcha) from DBZ would beat ANYONE from Naruto and One Piece, you can try and argue anyway you want, but it's true, it's a fact, they are gods, hell Goku went to be a god with the Eternal Dragon at the end.
Now Naruto and one Piece by themselves may be a good fight, through the earlier stages of One Piece, they would all lose to almost any Naruto character. But with Luffy's Gears, his second Gear open would pwn a lot of the Genin and a few Jonin, but Kyuubi naruto is MUCH more powerful than Luffy in any form, same with the rest of his crew. Sasuke with his curse, Sarutobi, Tsunade, Jiraiya, Kakashi, Gai, Rock Lee, Neji, Kabuto, Orochimaru, the Akatsuki...they're all way too powerful for One Piece....and I like one Piece WAY more than Naruto, but it's the truth.
Luffy in third gear couldn't even touch anybody from naruto, too slow, the kindergarten ninjas are far beyond fast enough to dodge. |
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| #14 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Yes... Rock Lee could kick some serious One Piece butt. XD <-- Isn't joking.
Oooh, Abel and Alucard would be a good match! |
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| #15 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Luffy in third gear couldn't even touch anybody from naruto, too slow, the kindergarten ninjas are far beyond fast enough to dodge.
Gear Second. It's almost exactly like Rock Lee's gate trick or whatever. Though I'm sure Gear Third is what would be needed to take out Naruto's forms.
As for everyone else, Sanji and Zoro have ludicrous stength, especially Diabla Jambe and Asura, respectively. Diabla Jambe turns all of Sanji's kicks into flames and Zoro grows (I don't understand it; something about "ki energy.") four more arms and two more heads for a total of nine swords. Usopp. A lot of people think Usopp doesn't know how to fight. He went up against Luffy himself and almost won, Luffy was just too enduring. Usopp is more of a strategist; I'd like him and that one guy from Naruto who does that shadow thing to have a fight. Usopp has the third greatest aim in the whole show, being able to snipe someone from the ground all the way up on a tower in one shot. Nami wouldn't last too long in these fights. Unless she got Thunderlance in there quickly, she's in trouble. Chopper isn't cute and cuddley either; in Monster Point, Chopper murdered Kumadori in minutes when Chopper was almost dead. Robin is another weakling, but no matter how fast you are if she gets her hands on you, especially with her power, you can easily get your back broken. Now Franky is made of steel in the front; no swords or bullets can hurt him there. I think Franky would be able to Right Hook 'em and Weapons Left 'em.
And that's just the main characters. CP9 are practically ninjas with tougher powers. |
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| #16 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #15 by HeavyDDR | Reply | I'm glad nobody seriously tried to argue the DBZ point of this.
See, all of them have insane strengths......in the One Piece world. Put the two together then it's a really tough call. Luffy's Gear Third is nowhere near enough to take out Naruto in normal form even, he could not hit him if his life depended on it (and I'm sure it would) especially if he's in his Kyuubi form(s). Luffy's Gear Second is much tougher and would make one hell of a tougher fight then his Third could wish to do. But if Naruto unleashed his toughest Kyuubi Form Luffy=dead faster than I can count to to 1 because like the way the Spirit Power works in Bleach, Kyuubi's chakra would just diminish so many peopel in one big burt, especially after being heald up so long.. This is just Luffy and Naruto though.....I mean Luffy in Gear Second vs let's say Kakashi would be tough, or Kabuto or Neji or whatever, I'm not going to go into each fight, because if you try to play out thefight...you're biased, because you'll end up making the one you want to win, win.
Now Sanji and Zoro = amazing tough I know, but neither of them have what takes to take on most Jonin level Ninja's in naruto, especially speaking that Genjutsu doesn't exist in One Piece and they'd all die if anyone got them in that. Except people like maybe Crocodile, who isn't hurt without water, not too mention they're not very fast. Usopp wouldn't last in these, even after watching the him vs Luffy fight, he only lasted that long because he's been with Luffy for a long timeand knew how he fight, if he didn't then he'd be out, nami would have to have her Thunder Cloud out before the fight starts to live let alone think of fighting. Chopper may be tough, I mean his Megazord (that's what I call it) is scary strong, but again that's in One Piece World......Now the only thing that killed Kumdori with that was his howling Aura that scared you. that's what makes him a tough fighter in that form. I don't know how the Chakra would react ot hat. Robin's ability definately is dangerous, I mean if you're in her sight, she's got you so anynumber of seen ninja's (that's redundant) would be taken out, but the better ones alway have a clone out first or substitue before they even know what happens. I laugh at Franky, Franky wouldn't stand a chance to 90% of the ninja's in the show, again, WAY too slow, WAY!!! too slow. Unless he's falling back and shooting (oooh especially his Air Shoot cannon all the way powered up) he's not much help, especially since Ninja specialties = attacking in the back.
Now CP9's abilites put them in the "I can't even imagin a fight with them and the tougher Ninja's from Naruto", it would to hard to comprehend....and Everyone's Open Gate Trick (it's not just his) is more powerful than Gear Second after about the 4th gate. Gai's would make invincible!!!! ooh, now if the people in naruto learned hwo to use Chakra, than Nami wouldn't be a weakling and think about Chidori or Rasengan coming from 2,000 of Robin's hands. |
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| #17 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | Anybody with a "logia" ability would be able to destroy Naruto's world. (Crocodile could lose if they find out his weaknes) |
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| #18 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Well I dunno about that, because the if they ever made their bodies fully into that element, say water or ice or fire, than a ninja could control them with one of their jutsu's. Or so logic in anime may make us to believe.
Not to mention that even a logia ability would be hard to even hurt Kyuubi Naruto or Cursed Sasuke fully open. Same with any of the people possessing Demon animals. |
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| #19 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | "Not to mention that even a logia ability would be hard to even hurt Kyuubi Naruto or Cursed Sasuke fully open"
Yeah but they wouldnt be able to scrach them, if you wached One Piece you should know that the only one who could hurt Enel was Luffy(because he is Rubber) . |
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| #20 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Although they ninja's would have to know about his ability beforehand, I'm sure there's an easy way to make rubber kunai, and I'm sure they already have them for some unexplainable reason (they don't explain a lot of things in Naruto).
But ya, they couldn't hurt them at all with physical attacks, but if say any fire jutsu user fought someone with Ice Powers or vice versa, than he sure as hell can hurt him. And if that's they're only specialty I'd say they may lose, like Aokiji, he seemed powerful against Luffy and would rape anyone on his team, but he was slow. he couldn't be hurt by any physical attack and had amazing ice control to form around Luffy and what not, but if someone like Itachi and his Fire Specialty popped up ruh roh Spaghetti-Os.
The stranger ones like Smoker, he can fight and his power doesn't really have a designated weak point. but of course these people may have trained for such an occasion so that's why these fights are up in arms. |
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| #21 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | 1)Although they ninja's would have to know about his ability beforehand
2)these people may have trained for such an occasion so that's why these fights are up in arms
You are assuming too much. I could just said: "maybe Smoker trained to defeat ninja too"
Plus Enel also has mantra (i think thats how it was called) that can predict his enemy attacks (kinda like sharingan). |
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| #22 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #21 by xellos88 | Reply | It's only assuming too much if I'm actually a 100% on a side to win, but I'm just stating what I think is the problem with these match fights as they come at me.
Ya it's the Mantra ability, that ability I totally forgot about, but it's not like the Sharingan, like Luffy said himself "Although you may know what's about to happen, you may not be able to do anything about it." Then said.."You may not want to see what'll happen next." as Sanji did a super power up flip kick to the head of that fat guy, so that guy got double pain because he saw the future of his happening. So I believe it's more like the abiltiy from NEXT where he sees a minute into the future, but at the same time he can sense what everyone on the island was doing so I dunno. |
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| #23 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Note: Logia types control their element too. Crocodile can control sand. Ace can control fire.
One Piece goes down into it, too. Crocodile mastered his ability where turning into sand is a reflex. Plus, if he touches you with his right hand, he dries you out completely. Not only that but he has his Poison Hook, and even if thats gone he has a daggar underneath that. Crocodile is a prepared man.
But Enel would definitely stand a chance; not only can you not touch him (Unless with rubber or if he's distracted.) but he moves as fast as lightning and has mantra, where he can predict your moves before you know they're doing it. And I doubt someone in Naruto decided to say, "I'm gonna make a rubber kunai!" "That's a retarded idea, Naruto. Just make me my herpes chakra and we can move on."
But we all forgot about someone strong enough to beat Luffy; Aokiji.
Immortal or not, Aokiji can freeze you by just touching you. Can't be hurt either because of his Logia type. So unless the person he's fighting just decided to say, "Mmm, nah. I'm not fighting you." Aokiji would win. I mean, he took on Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, and Robin all at the same time.
Then we have the CP9. I KNOW they can defeat a lot of people from Naruto. Jyabura alone could beat a handful of them since he can walk around in his Tekkai. Then Rob Lucci has mastered all of the Rokushiki.
Also. I'm pretty sure Gear Second is enough to take out nearly everyone on Naruto. Super fast, super strong... For the guys with demons, especially Naruto, he can switch to Gear Third to knock 'em out. |
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| #24 Posted 1 year ago, in reply to post #23 by HeavyDDR | Reply | Do you not read anything from me HeavyDDR or just ignore it?
I understand this, Crocodile can control his element (Sand that is..that's an element?) and is a force to rekon with, but the other things like Poison Hook or Dagger is useless, if someone took away his sand he'd die from not being able to even see the Ninjas. He can't move at super speed like EVERY ninja in Naruto, but you can't take away his sand so he's a force to rekon with. And with all these Logia Pirates, if you put them up against their naruto Counterpart, say Crocodile vs Gaara of the sand, all the One Piece people would win, they both have amazing element control but the ninja's must use chakra to do so and will run low or out while Croc will laugh as he's raping him with his sandy wang.
You keep comparing these One Piece people to other One Piece people, however not once has Aokiji or Ace showed that they in fact can control their element. They can turn into it, fire it out in as big of blasts they want and turn things into it (Aokiji turned the ocean into ice) but not once have they took control of a normal or someone elses fire or ice or made their own ice or fire fly around at will seperate from their bodies, other than straight at where they're aiming. Where as the ninjas in Naruto have them turning into whales and dragons and other animals or weapons flying around as they please, which is control.
And Enel is a god who couldn't be beat, I know, in fact not many people from Naruto could beat him just because of his mantra and literal lightning speed, but there ARE rubber kunai, does anyone remember that episode in the filler where a kid was training with a rubber kunai? BAM they do exist, put that in the hands of a capable ninja and you've got yourself an anti-Enel weapon (if he could hit him that is) but still Enel is freaking crazy powerful.
I already said I can't imagine a CP9 fight with the top ninjas, that would be a REALLY good fight, seriously, I would pay both creators to have them make that, they should've instead of One Piece and DBZ coming together.
And what I meant in the beginning of this thread, Luffy's Gear Third is a completely useless thing against everyone from Naruto, WAY too slow, seriously too slow, slower than what slow means in the world of Shounen anime, Stick with Gear Second which is a much tougher thing and can actually hold up in a fight with naruto people. |
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| #25 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | I was kind of skimming through the posts that time around. =P
True. As for the sand is an element thing, I kinda rushed there. It's considered an element in the series.
Ace was able to light Sanji's cigarette and Aokiji is a Vice-Admiral; he's got to be pretty tough. Besides, it's even been said, all Logia types can control their element. I'm sure it's just a basic thing for them.
Alright, seriously, what kind of ninja is going to carry a rubber kunai on them? Not even a fully prepared ninja would think of that.
Really? Must've missed that.
I'm saying Gear Third would be strong enough to take out Naruto in his higher forms, like when he transforms into the fox demon. Luffy punching small dog, remember? Also, I have to say Gear second is stronger and faster in the gates, but Lucci even said that Gear Second gets weaker and weaker the more he uses it. |
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| #26 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Ya, I can't honestly say that any of the ninjas would carry a rubber kunai on them, but they exist. OH they can make their shadow/water/earth/whatever clones into weapons out of any element they want, rubber giant windmill shuriken!! Haha.
Well I know the sand is part of teh logia, but as an element it's so wierd, and I know they say logia users control their element, but it may only be from their body, I mean even Crocodile said after he started the sand-tornado that he can't stop it, it's not part of his body anymore, but didn't Ace light his cig with fire from his body? That just a little point and light, not control, same with Mustang from Fullmetal, his specialty is fire but he CAN'T control it, he just points, snaps, and ignites, he can't move it around like Robin from Witch Hunter Robin. Aokiji is Vice-Admiral, but that may only bebecause of his super Ice power, I mean he froze a F*CKING ocean, that's crazy, but other than that I don't know what he could do...other than he's tall.
And I know that IF Luffy EVER hit (almost) ANYONE with Gear Third Gigante Pistol or Gigante Axe, it would be deadly, but there's no way he could land the hit. But even if he lands it on the Higher Forms of Kyuubi Naruto (which would never happen, ever) it wouldn't be a deadly blow, do you know how powerful full blown Naruto is? He causes a crater the size of Texas (excaggeration of course, but still freaking Tribeam HA Tien deap and really wide) with his Kyuubi Chidori. Kyuubi Naruto is also MUCH faster than that of Gear Second OR the fast Rokushiki move, and Sasuke from Shippudan is almost that fast normally......without any boost. Not faster than Lightning....BUT faster than anyones moved in One Piece, the speed level in naruto is set to a higher bar than that of One Piece, which is why my initial reaction to all of these vs threads is a bit unfair. Same with the Power level, FAST forom One Piece, is just "pretty fast" in Naruto, while pretty fast in Naruto is "FAST" in One Piece, like Enel. Rock lee with just his weights off(no gates open, and he's not the fastest), is about as fast as Luffy Gear Second or the speed Rokushiki.
Now, this entire time I've been trying to also avoid saying genjutsu, genjutsu users don't have to see or even know where their oponent is, just set a trap and you're caught in an illusion you don't know about and the user is alarmed, One Piece people have no idea about these things, they could be in an illusion before anything happens, they're screwed.
It's the same as putting Naruto against DBZ, levels set WAY too high, hell 4th season up yu Yu hakusho is 1st season DBZ level, which Naruto hasn't hit yet. |
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| #27 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | Luffy has beaten speed a lot. Kuro, Enel, Blueno, Lucci... If Luffy gets one grab on them they're done.
And i consider anime-speeds to be all the same; if you can't see them, they're going the same speed as anyone else. Soru is fast enough to never be seen. In fact, you never see the Soru users actually run. (Mainly because it's a series of dashes but thats not the point.) I'm still going to say that the Gates are as fast as Soru/Gear Second.
I don't think genjustsu could really hold back the One Piece characters for too long. Maybe Zoro, he lives in an illusion, but sooner or later the characters would learn and counter it somehow, especially people like Robin and Chopper who tend to be the smartest of the group. And Nami practically uses genjustsu herself with her Mirage Tempo.
Aokiji is a pretty strong guy. His ice was able to withstand Luffy's punch, Zoro's sword, and Sanji's kick all at the same time. And we've yet to see if Aokiji CAN be beaten by fire. Knowing Oda Aokiji can probably counter it somehow by creating an equal force of ice. I think we should leave Aokiji out of this until we get more stuff about him.
Alright, how about this?
Naruto wins in speed. All the characters are always dashing along like nothing wasting no energy on running. Eventually, they would win by landing a lot of weak attacks.
One Piece wins in strength. The characters break buildings like nothing. If the One Piece characters get just a few hits on Naruto, they win.
DONE. Next battle.
On that one Alucard vs. Nightroad match, i think Alucard would win because he sucks the most; Alucard gets a new power to help him every two minutes because he's not invincible enough. |
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| #28 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | | Dont pay attention to this post >_< |
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| #29 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | "FAST forom One Piece, is just "pretty fast" in Naruto"
How do you know that, its not like in the anime or manga says "Naruto can run at **km/h". Both One Piece and Naruto use the "He is so fast i cant see him!" effect that is used to lower the animation budged :P Plus Luffy has incredible attack speed, just wach the "Jet Gatling" attack he used against Lucci |
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| #30 Posted 1 year ago | Reply | You're right, I don't know that, I just go by narration from characters and animation and damage done to surroundings, Soru from One Piece = Flash Step from Bleach, same thing, but it seems to me that Flash Step is faster than Soru just due to level of speed Bleach is at. Yes Jet Gatling has incredible attack speed (some of fastest I've seen yet, all his punches connected at the same time, yet only 2 fits, hot damn) but that's just an attack's speed, not his speed, gatling is suppsed to be an illusion of many fists to begin with, mixed with Gear Second is crazy. Attack speed and speed are totally different things.
@HeavyDDR
With the knowledge that you must use chakra to disperse a genjutsu, Robin and Chopper, no matter how smart they are, unless they learned about chakra somewhere, couldn't do anything, if anything Robin would have to reach out EVERYWHERE in hopes of grabbing the enemy, which could work.
Again, One Piece and Naruto power is still isn't easily comparable just like that, Zoro can cut through almost anything and lift a lot, Sanji can kick people through buildings, Luffy using his super Gomu Gomu no Storm, lifted the town square of Alabaster!, but again to Naruto, Rock Lee can lift trees out of the ground without trying, Gai is much more powerful than him, Tsunade's brute strangth destroys the ery ground we walk, it's still up in arms, this fight.
and Nami's "genjutsu" is more like the after image technique from DB, it's just multiple hers.
And speed in shows are totally different, whether they tell us or not, just because they vanish and reappear doesn't make it the same speed, far from true that is. The Speed from DBZ is far greater than that of these shows, and you should know it, Hiei from Hakusho's speed seems far and above, but compare it to DBZ, it's nothing, like these.
Alucard was invincible from teh beginning, he just had limiters to keep his power from going crazy. |
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